Towny DPH/DPS Numbers for Axes vs Swords Which one is better?

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axe or sword

Poll closed Jan 28, 2019.
  1. Axe

    66.7%
  2. Sword

    33.3%
  1. nxkami

    nxkami Member

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    Now a few people have been wondering which of these weapons are better for Pvp, grinding, normal play etc. this guide is for both intermediate players and advanced btw


    hi shim
    I wanted to write an introduction here but I'm not really the kind of person to try and clickbait anyone
    but to put it short

    NOTE: asterisks (*) mean recommended

    Grinding acceptable builds
    Swords
    Sharpness 3-5 (6 should be saved as a pvp sword)
    Looting 3 / fire aspect 2
    Sweeping edge 3
    Unbreaking 3
    mending
    any other vanilla enchants
    CE's
    Inquisitive 3 larger exp gain
    Rage 3 x4 damage so you don't need a fall damage grinder
    lightweight 2* / Nutrition ?
    idk why people run nutrition just put food in your left hand
    lightweight allows you to kill mobs faster and speeds up grinding giving you a 1.92 attack speed
    combined with rage, you might not even need sharpness 5

    PVP BUILDS YEET
    (you should probably get at least lvl 200 axes for endgame)
    Axe
    Sharpness 5
    Unbreaking 3+
    mending ig
    any other vanilla enchants but u dont need them
    CE's
    Haste 3
    Slice 2* /Cursed 3
    Rekt 3* /Cursed 3
    caps out at 60~ average dps with recommended CE's

    Swords
    Sharpness 5+
    Unbreaking 3+
    Sweeping edge 3
    Mending
    Slice 2
    Double Damage 3
    Fast turn 2 /lightweight 2*
    caps out at 60~ average dps with recommended CE's
    However with this sword build if you have a Potion of Haste it is not recommended to use lightweight 2 over Fast Turn 2



    Actual data

    NOTE: THIS DOES NOT FACTOR IN CRITICALS <such as axe crits>/BLEED DAMAGE/CE CRITS
    NOTE2: THESE ARE STATS FOR DIAMOND TOOLS AND EXCLUSIVELY TO DIAMOND

    base dmg sword sharp 6
    10.5 /1.6x dmg @ dps 16.8
    dps with haste 2 (lightweight)
    10.5 /1.92x dmg @ dps 20.16

    base axe dmg sharp 5
    12 /1.0x dmg @ dps 12
    dps with haste 3 (haste 3)
    12 /1.3x @ dps 15.6

    base axe dmg sharp 5 w mcmmo axes lvl 200
    16 /1.0x dmg @ dps 16
    dps with haste 3 (haste 3)
    16 /1.3x dmg @ dps 20.8

    In theory Axes will always be better than swords in terms of function as well as dps
    as they may not possess the sheer amount of hits per second as a sword, they can tear
    through armor, critical hit, critical knockback, and recieve bonus damage from mcmmo.

    However, even the most optimal damage kit for axe, being max vanilla enchants with slice 2 rekt 3 and haste 3,
    wont be a match for a sharp 6 sword with double damage 3 slice 2 fastturn 2 with a potion of haste.

    these stats collected here are for base dps that do not account for ce's

    in conclusion haste is broken
     
  2. Crms0nBlade

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    Due to MCMMO (if I'm not mistaken) axes should be better with pvp... I'd recommend rechecking the data with a sword that has rage along with double damage , as the effect may stack and cause even higher DPH.
     
  3. nxkami

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    yea it does stack, however it is impractical since most people would run thorns armor or at least cactus CE. Axes get more base dmg and can do bonus damage to armor making it more practical in pvp compared to rage
     

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